zaterdag 31 juli 2021

 








Highlights

  • Most recovered COVID-19 patients mount broad, durable immunity after infection
  • Neutralizing antibodies show a bi-phasic decay with half-lives >200 days
  • Spike IgG+ memory B cells increase and persist post-infection
  • Durable polyfunctional CD4 and CD8 T cells recognize distinct viral epitope regions

Summary

Ending the COVID-19 pandemic will require long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Here, we evaluate 254 COVID-19 patients longitudinally up to 8 months and find durable broad-based immune responses.

SARS-CoV-2 spike binding and neutralizing antibodies exhibit a bi-phasic decay with an extended half-life of >200 days suggesting the generation of longer-lived plasma cells.

SARS-CoV-2 infection also boosts antibody titers to SARS-CoV-1 and common betacoronaviruses. In addition, spike-specific IgG+ memory B cells persist, which bodes well for a rapid antibody response upon virus re-exposure or vaccination.

Virus-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T cells are polyfunctional and maintained with an estimated half-life of 200 days. Interestingly, CD4+ T cell responses equally target several SARS-CoV-2 proteins, whereas the CD8+ T cell responses preferentially target the nucleoprotein, highlighting the potential importance of including the nucleoprotein in future vaccines.

Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients.

Graphical abstract

https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2?s=03#secsectitle0020




Green tea, zinc, Quercetin and hydroxychloroquine: Coronavirus cure?

Friday, August 14, 2020 by: Ethan Huff

Tags: coronaviruscovid-19CuresEGCGepigallocatechin gallategoodhealthGreen teahcqhydroxychloroquineinfectionsnatural remediesnutrientsoutbreakpandemicplant medicinepreventionremediesWuhan coronaviruszinczinc ionophore


(Natural News) The alt-media is all over the coronavirus – hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) scandal, with some news outlets even bravely talking about the importance of supplementing with zinc for maximum immune protection. But there is another healing component that few are mentioning, and it is probably already stocked away in your kitchen pantry.

We are talking about green tea, or more specifically epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), a polyphenol component of green tea that research suggests might be substantially more powerful than HCQ and zinc at protecting against viral infections.

Ionic zinc, as a quick background, helps to modulate both the innate and adaptive immune signaling pathways inside the body to ward off pathogenic invaders, including the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19). And HCQ is said to help zinc ions more easily and effectively do their job in supporting healthy immune function.

There has been a whole lot of bickering recently over the alleged benefits of HCQ, with the anti-Trump left insisting that it does not work. Those on the right, primarily, say that HCQ works surprisingly well, and peer-reviewed science would seem to back this.

But the real power is in the zinc which, among its many other functions, acts as a protective nutrient for preserving natural tissue barriers, including in the respiratory epithelium. In essence, zinc helps to block pathogenic entry into the body while optimizing the immune system.

Zinc deficiency, in other words, is a major risk factor for Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) infection. We already know that about 16 percent of all deep respiratory infections worldwide are linked to zinc deficiency, and Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) infection is no exception.

“As a virus, SARS-CoV2 (Wuhan coronavirus) is highly dependent on the metabolism of the host cell,” one paper explains. “Direct antiviral effects of zinc have been demonstrated in various cases … Examples include coronaviridae [i.e. coronaviruses].”

“Zinc supplementation improves the mucociliary clearance, strengthens the integrity of the epithelium, decreases viral replication, preserves antiviral immunity, attenuates the risk of hyper-inflammation, supports anti-oxidative effects and thus reduces lung damage and minimizes secondary infections.”

Drinking green tea and taking zinc is BETTER than taking HCQ

Where HCQ comes into play has to do with its role as a zinc ionophore, meaning HCQ helps to deliver otherwise bio-unavailable zinc across the lipid boundaries of cells. Another drug known as clioquinol is said to be an even more potent zinc ionophore, delivering up to 10 times more zinc into the cells than HCQ.

As for green tea, its natural EGCG content is also a zinc ionophore. Not only that, it is a much more powerful zinc ionophore than HCQ which, it is important to keep in mind, is still a pharmaceutical drug.

While EGCG is only about 60 percent as powerful as clioquinol, it is substantially more powerful than HCQ which, due to political strife, remains largely inaccessible to Americans. Green tea, on the other hand, is widely available without a prescription.

“Fortunately, the main active ingredient in green tea, epigallocatechin gallate (“EGCG”) has been shown by a team of Spanish scientists to be 60% as powerful a zinc ionophore as clioquinol, which is the world’s most powerful zinc ionophore,” reports Zero Hedge.

“Dr. Juan Bautista Fernández Larre – a professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Biotechnology at the Universitat Rovira i Virgili – and his team have published several scientific papers on the topic.”

Another beneficial zinc ionophore in the natural category is quercetin (QCT), which is said to be about 30 percent as effective as clioquinol. This is still more effective than HCQ, though, providing yet another potential option for healing that avoids the political red tape and questionable safety of prescription drugs.

For more related news about natural remedies for the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19), be sure to check out Pandemic.news.

Sources for this article include:

NaturalNews.com

ZeroHedge.com

 

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  Green Tea, Zinc and Coronavirus

BY GEORGE WASHINGTON

WEDNESDAY, AUG 05, 2020 - 0:03


Zinc is a very powerful way to strengthen your body against viruses.  The National Institutes of Health notes:

Zinc is found in cells throughout the body. It helps the immune system fight off invading bacteria and viruses.

Moreover:

An abundance of evidence has accumulated over the past 50 years to demonstrate the antiviral activity of zinc against a variety of viruses, and via numerous mechanisms.

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Ionic zinc possesses unique and distinct antiviral properties against a number of human viruses ....  Zinc has been shown to contribute to a number of innate and adaptive immune signaling pathways that have been comprehensively reviewed recently.

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Upon recognition of microbial antigens ... a rapid and transient influx of free zinc ions occurs.

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Zinc plays a significant role in the response to [interferons] by modulating secretion, cytokine potency, and receptor binding, as well as influencing signaling intermediates and pathway inhibitors. 

Harvard notes:

Zinc is a component of many enzymes and transcription factors in cells all over the body, and inadequate zinc levels limit the individual’s ability to mount an adequate immune response to infections. Multiple meta-analyses and pooled analyses of randomized controlled trials (RCTs) have shown that oral zinc supplementation reduces the incidence rate of acute respiratory infections by 35%, shortens the duration of flu-like symptoms by approximately 2 days, and improves the rate of recovery. The studies were conducted in the US as well as in multiple low- and middle-income countries such as India, South Africa, and Peru. The dose of zinc in these studies ranged from 20 mg/week to 92 mg/day. Dose does not appear to be the main driver of the effectiveness of zinc supplementation. [More on this below.]

Zinc was shown to inhibit viral replication in many other types of coronavirus, including in the original SarsCov coronavirus.  Many common colds are actually mild coronaviruses, and as UCHealth points out:

Cochrane review updated in 2013 summarized 18 randomized controlled trials involving 1,781 participants across all age groups found that zinc – particularly in lozenge or syrup form – “inhibits replication of the virus” that cause the common cold and shortens average duration of the common cold when taken within 24 hours of onset of symptoms at a dose of more than 75 milligrams a day.

2010 study led by University of Leiden Medical researchers in the Netherlands sought to understand how zinc inhibited that replication. The team reported that zinc inhibits a cousin of SARS-CoV-2: SARS-CoV, the original SARS of the 2003 outbreak.

And it could be very helpful in fighting this specific type of coronavirus, SarsCov2 (i.e. Covid):

Interestingly, most of the risk groups described for COVID-19 are at the same time groups that were associated with zinc deficiency. As zinc is essential to preserve natural tissue barriers such as the respiratory epithelium, preventing pathogen entry, for a balanced function of the immune system and the redox system, zinc deficiency can probably be added to the factors predisposing individuals to infection and detrimental progression of COVID-19. Finally, due to its direct antiviral properties, it can be assumed that zinc administration is beneficial for most of the population, especially those with suboptimal zinc status.

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The fact that zinc deficiency is responsible for 16% of all deep respiratory infections world-wide provides a first strong hint on a link of zinc deficiency with the risk of infection and severe progression of COVID-19 and suggests potential benefits of zinc supplementation.

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Infections with coronaviruses go along with damage of the ciliated epithelium and ciliary dyskinesia consecutively impairing the mucociliar clearance. It was shown that physiological concentrations of zinc increase ciliary beat frequency. Moreover, zinc supplementation in zinc deficient rats had a positive effect on the number and the length of bronchial cilia .... Improved ciliary clearance does not only improve the removal of virus particle, it also reduces the risk of secondary bacterial infections ....

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Zinc is essential for preserving tissue barriers

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Zinc ... might decrease ACE-2 expression and thus viral entry into the cell.

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As a virus, SARS-CoV2 is highly dependent on the metabolism of the host cell. Direct antiviral effects of zinc have been demonstrated in various cases .... Examples include coronaviridae [i.e. coronaviruses].

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Zinc supplementation improves the mucociliary clearance, strengthens the integrity of the epithelium, decreases viral replication, preserves antiviral immunity, attenuates the risk of hyper-inflammation, supports anti-oxidative effects and thus reduces lung damage and minimized secondary infections.

Need to Catch a Ride

However, it is difficult for zinc to get into your cells unless it catches a ride from a "zinc ionophore".  An ionophore is just a substance which transports things across the lipid boundary  of your cells. 

Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore. 

Another drug, clioquinol, is even more potent. One of the scientists who discovered that chloroquine is a zinc ionophore (Dr. Wei-Qun Ding from the University of Oklahoma) told me that he estimates that clioquinol is 10 times more powerful as a zinc ionophore compared to hydroxychloroquine. 

Leslie Costello - an oncology professor at the University of Maryland - agrees that clioquinol is a more powerful zinc ionophore than hydroxychloroquine:

ZnClioquinol [i.e. clioquinol zinc ionophore] has a zinc-binding affinity of logKf=7-8; which is ideal for the competitive binding of most of the plasma zinc that exists in the exchangeable ZnLigands. In contrast, chloroquine zinc ionophore (ZnChloroquine) has a logKf=5-6. Consequently, it competitively binds with much less zinc that is delivered to the ... site.

However, most scientists believe that clioquinol is much more dangerous than hydroxychloroquine.

Moreover, both clioquinol and hydroxychloroquine are only available in the U.S. by prescription.   The science around hydroxychloroquine is so politically charged at the moment that it is difficult to obtain a prescription, and some have warned of dangerous side effects of hydroxychloroquine (I won't give you my own opinion on this issue; make up your own mind).  And hydroxychloroquine is important for people with certain conditions such as lupus, and so- if everyone took hydroxychloroquine - it would create a shortage for those people.

More importantly, even those who believe that hydroxychloroquine is helpful against Covid say that it is only effective if taken very soon after catching the disease.  But many people are asymptomatic (at least at first), and don't know they have Covid until it's too late.

So how can you know to take something when you don't even know you have a bug?

Fortunately, the main active ingredient in green tea, epigallocatechin gallate ("EGCG") has been shown by a team of Spanish scientists to be 60% as powerful a zinc ionophore as clioquinol, which is the world's most powerful zinc ionophore.  Dr. Juan Bautista Fernández Larre - a professor in the Department of Biochemistry and Biotechnology at the Universitat Rovira i Virgili - and his team have published several scientific papers on the topic.

Remarks: 

"CQ" stands for clioquinol, 

"EGCG" is the ingredient in green tea

"QCT" stands for quercetin, a common ingredient in certain foods such as capers, red apple peels and red onions.

Professor Fernández Larre explained to me by email:

Taking Clioquinol (CQ) as the standard, as is its the most potent ionophore we have tested in our liposomal assay, and assigning a 100% value to the clioquinol ionophoric activity , then pyrithione (PYR), which is not a polyphenol, displays also almost a 100% activity relative to clioquinol, whereas epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) has 60% activity and quercetin (QCT) has only 30% the efficiency of clioquinol, on a equimolar basis.Nonetheless, this is a proof of concept assay, and exact ionophoric capacity of each compound will vary with the absolute and relative concentrations of the ionophore and of zinc; it will also depend on temperature, pH of the solution and lipid composition of the liposome (absolute and relative amounts of lecithin, other phospholipids, cholesterol, etc). It will also vary dependent on the fluorochrome used to detect zinc in the interior of the liposome (FluoZinc, Zinquin, etc) and on the concentration of the fluorochrome within the liposome, since different fluorochromes display different strengths to separate zinc from the polyphenol zinc complex.

In any case, in the exact standardized conditions used in our assay, we can conclude the relative ionophoric effect of the different compounds tested.It is, I think, important to remark that the liposomal assay allows to elaborate a scale or a standard of ionophoric strength or ionophoric capacity or potential; and that, once established through this assay that a compound behaves as an ionophore in a liposome, we can say that it will also be ionophoric in any type of cell, as this effect is independent of content of protein, glycoprotein, glycolipids, of the cell membrane, although of course it will vary according to the fluidity of the cell membrane, that depends on its exact lipid composition.

As a follow-up question, I asked Dr. Larrea how well zinc is absorbed by cells in the absence of an ionophore.  His answer was, essentially, not at all:

Zinc, 10 micromolar (Zn10), alone, by itself, renders just circa 2% fluorescence of that obtained with CQ. Control means, fluorescence of liposomes without the addition of any substance. That means that zinc alone, by itself is not able to enter the liposomes, as expected. This 1-2% is the background fluorescence of the whole system.

So what does this mean?

If professor Ding is correct that clioquinol is 10 times as powerful as hydroxychloroquine, and given that EGCG is only .6 times as powerful as  clioquinol, that means that EGCG could be a lot more powerful than hydroxychloroquine. In other words, EGCG could be 6 times more powerful than hydroxychloroquine as a zinc ionophore (EGCG =.6 times as potent as clioquinol which is times 10 as powerful as hydroxychloroquine ... so .6 times 10 = 6).

And green tea is super healthy for you anyway.  So drinking it every day preventatively can only help you, and can't hurt you.  You'll be maintaining a high baseline of zinc ionophores, and so bathing your cells with zinc to help ward of viral infections. 

How to Take Zinc and EGCG

The Mayo Clinic  notes that zinc should be taken on an empty stomach:

Zinc supplements are most effective if they are taken at least 1 hour before or 2 hours after meals.

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When zinc combines with certain foods it may not be absorbed into your body and it will do you no good. If you are taking zinc, the following foods should be avoided or taken 2 hours after you take zinc:

·         Bran

·         Fiber-containing foods

·         Phosphorus-containing foods such as milk or poultry

·         Whole-grain breads and cereals

Oysters and oyster extract is the highest food source of zinc, although many meats also contain good doses.  (If you eat a lot of red meat you're probably getting enough zinc; but you still need a zinc ionophore to get it into your cells). If you take zinc supplements, don't take more than the recommended daily amount (40 mg a day is the upper limit for long term supplement use; indeed, too much zinc can actually suppress immunity), and studies imply that it is best to dissolve the zinc in your mouth (i.e. zinc lozenges). 

The same is true for EGCG ... proteins bind with EGCG, so it can't be absorbed very well by your body.  (And some green teas are higher in EGCG than others.) If you take EGCG supplements, never take high doses. For example, studies show that 800 mg/day can cause liver damage.

I'm not talking about taking away anything from your diet. For example, I'm not saying quit drinking coffee and instead drink tea.  I still drink plenty of coffee ... but I just add green tea to my daily intake. 

Note: I am not a health professional and this article is solely general information, and not intended to diagnose or treat. Please see your doctor before deciding to change anything you're doing. 

Postscript: Exercise may also be helpful.

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vrijdag 30 juli 2021

 



Over de hele wereld verenigen artsen en wetenschappers zich, om een internationale verklaring te doen: er is geen pandemie. 

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 In onderstaande video hoor je een van de artsen van de 'Wereldvereniging Voor Artsen', de Nederlandse dokter Elke De Klerk.

Zij tevens oprichter van 'Artsen Voor Waarheid'. Dr. De Klerk is woordvoerdster van vele honderden artsen en is in contact met bijna 90.000 verplegers.


Ze legt uit hoe er paniek wordt veroorzaakt met valse testresultaten van een volslagen onbetrouwbare PCR test. 

 

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BREAKING: CDC, FDA faked “covid” testing protocol by using human cells mixed with common cold virus fragments… PCR tests are merely detecting the common cold

Friday, July 30, 2021 by: Mike Adams
Tags: badhealthCDCCOVIDFakeFDAhoaxinfluenzalab testspandemicPCRPlandemicStagedvirologyvirus

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(Natural News)

In a shocking revelation first reported by Dan Dicks of Press for Truth (Canada), an FDA document admits that the CDC and FDA conspired to fabricate a covid-19 testing protocol using human cells combined with common cold virus fragments because they had no physical samples of the SARS-CoV-2 “covid” virus available.

Without physical reference material to use for calibration and confirmation, the test has zero scientific basis in physical reality. And all the PCR analysis based on this protocol is utterly fraudulent, flagging people as “positive” for covid when they merely possess tiny quantities of RNA fragments from other coronavirus strains circulating in their blood.

The FDA document, available from the FDA.gov website, is entitled, “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)  Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel .” The document astonishingly admits: (emphasis ours)

Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen.

In other words, they had no covid virus from which to develop and calibrate the test, so they mixed up a cocktail of human cells and RNA fragments from a common cold virus, then called it “covid.” The GenBank sequence referred to in this paragraph is simply a digital library definition that’s labeled “covid” but has no supporting reference materials in physical reality either.

That’s because no doctor or researcher has isolated “covid” from any infected, symptomatic patient. As a result, no laboratory instruments can be calibrated against actual covid, and the tests simply rely on digital libraries pushed out by the CDC and WHO, using “covid” as the label.

The PCR tests are then instructed to look for these genetic sequences obtained from the fabricated digital libraries, meaning the entire scheme is junk science circular logic with no basis in physical reality.

Why are there seemingly no certified reference materials for covid available to laboratories for instrument calibration?

I am the founder and owner of an analytical laboratory that routinely conducts quantitative analysis of food contaminants, producing high-precision analysis results for pesticides, herbicides and heavy metals. In every case where we conduct lab analysis, we calibrate the instruments against known physical samples called “external standards” or “certified reference materials.” (CRM)

Any lab can purchase CRMs for mercury, arsenic, glyphosate and even salmonella. For example, this link at Biosisto lists CRMs for various salmonella strains. Labs can purchase those reference materials and use them to calibrate their instruments, making sure their analysis is traced back to physical, real-world samples of a purified material. These CRMs, in turn, must be NIST-traceable in order to confirm their origin and authenticity. All CRMs are therefore labeled with lot numbers and expiration dates.

While labs can purchase reference materials for microbes, heavy metals, pesticides, etc. — all physical materials — I have searched far and wide and have not been able to locate any certified reference materials for SARS-CoV-2 or even a weakened, non-viable version of it. As far as I can tell, there appear to be no physical specimens of isolated covid viruses available for instrument calibrations and testing protocol quality control.

To be clear, I’m not saying that viruses don’t exist, and it’s quite clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology colluded with Fauci, Daszak, the NIH, Baric and others to develop a weaponized spike protein. But the spike protein is not a virus by itself. It’s simply a toxic nanoparticle that can be synthesized in quantity and then either dumped on cities or added to vaccines and injected into people via immunization protocols.

I ask the big question about all this in my science lab whistleblower video here, which presents more details about all this that will have your head spinning. In essence, if “covid-19” is a real virus that can be isolated, why are there apparently no physical reference materials to calibrate laboratory instruments for covid detection? And why were no such materials used in the development of the FDA-approved, CDC-endorsed PCR testing protocols?

https://naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-cdc-fda-faked-covid-testing-protocol-by-using-human-cells-mixed-with-common-cold-virus.html

CDC pulls its own fraudulent covid PCR testing protocol, implying it cannot differentiate between covid and influenza

What adds to the mystery in all this is the fact that the CDC just issued a “laboratory alert,” announcing their intention to withdraw the faulty PCR testing protocol by the end of this year. As part of their announcement, they implied that the current PCR test — the same one the FDA mentioned above, which was developed without any physical covid samples for calibration — cannot tell the difference between influenza and covid.

From the CDC document:

In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.

Why might it be important to differentiate covid from influenza?

Because, as it seems, influenza cases nearly disappeared in 2020 as influenza was re-labeled “covid” due to the faulty testing.

“Percentage influenza positivity decreased by 64% (p = 0.001) and estimated daily number of influenza cases decreased by 76% (p = 0.002) in epidemiologic weeks 5–9 of 2020 compared with the preceding years,” reported the CDC in 2020.

In essence, the medical establishment simply took all the people who would normally be diagnosed with colds and the flu, and shifted them into the “covid” category in order to push a covid mass hysteria narrative that would drive people into vaccines. The vaccines, then, were formulated with spike protein toxic nanoparticles to cause the “delta” panic wave, which is largely occurring among vaccinated individuals.

From here, the plandemic scam proceeds like clockwork: People get sick from the vaccines, so more vaccine boosters are demanded, which perpetuates the illness. Rinse and repeat. It never ends until the perpetrators are arrested and people wise up to the scam.

The CDC has just published a science document that confirms the entire scam. Click here to view the PDF on our servers.

It’s entitled, “Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, Including COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections, Associated with Large Public Gatherings — Barnstable County, Massachusetts, July 2021” and it shockingly admits that 74% of infections occurred in fully vaccinated (double dose) people:

During July 2021, 469 cases of COVID-19 associated with multiple summer events and large public gatherings in a town in Barnstable County, Massachusetts, were identified among Massachusetts residents; vaccination coverage among eligible Massachusetts residents was 69%. Approximately three quarters (346; 74%) of cases occurred in fully vaccinated persons (those who had completed a 2-dose course of mRNA vaccine [Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna] or had received a single dose of Janssen [Johnson & Johnson] vac- cine ?14 days before exposure).

See, the vaccine is the pandemic. The vaccine is spreading the spike protein, and the fake PCR tests provide the fuel to keep the mass hysteria going.

I cover more details of all this in today’s bombshell podcast via Brighteon.com:

Brighteon.com/dfb235d4-f0d6-4d7d-af06-d1f4e391c4f5

Also see this video from Dan Dicks, who covers the fake PCR tests as well:

Brighteon.com/a8ef9e25-cdd3-453e-b4dc-97d2faada2b2

https://naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-cdc-fda-faked-covid-testing-protocol-by-using-human-cells-mixed-with-common-cold-virus.html

Find a new Situation Update podcast each weekday at:

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